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Why Can't I Change My Country Setting in Xbox Live?

If you're a regular reader of my blog, you'll know that I recently purchased a Xbox 360 Elite. During the process of setting up my GamerTag on the 360 I noticed that the country code was locked to the US and it wouldn’t allow me to change this.  I continued along entering my Canadian information as best as possible.  But I couldn’t figure out why it wouldn’t let me select Canada.  I later learned that the country information is pulled from your Live ID (Passport).  I don’t know why my passport account was set to the US, but it was and I’ve now changed it. However Xbox Live does not see that the information has changed. The country field is greyed out in every place I look.  So I can’t change it, and it won’t see that the passport account has changed. It’s locked with US. 

 

Now, the real problem starts.  I purchased a Microsoft Points card so I can download some of the arcade games that I think my kids might be interested in. On the back of the points card it says “Points cards valid for Canadian accounts only”. And you guessed it, when I try and enter the points code it tells me that the card is invalid.

 

I’ve phone Xbox support (2 times) to see if they can change my account to Canada from US.  The answer I got was that there is no way to change this information.  Once it’s setup its locked in and can never be changed, despite the fact that I can change the original source. The only way to correct this issue, according to support, is to create a new GamerTag, which requires a new Live (Passport) ID since my existing passport can only ever be used on one GamerTag.  

 

Now I’m left holding a points card I can’t return because the retailer has no way of knowing if it’s been used or not (I had to scratch off the back to see the number before I found out I can’t use it). Or, I can create a whole new account and passport which would cause me to lose all my existing gamer scores and force me to have all my messenger friends re-add me to their MSNM.

 

What was the Xbox Live team thinking? What’s the usage scenario that lead them to decide that this information should NEVER be allowed to change? Did they not realize that people do move between countries and that they might not want to lose all their accomplishments? And why don’t they pull the updated information from Passport? After all, your Passport account is meant to act like a passport and store all the personal information in one central spot. Angry

Published Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:22 AM by Mike Temporale
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Red said:

I'm currently in the same situation, having just moved from the US to Canada.  The thing is, I managed to get one support representitive who didn't seem to have a problem changing my info.  Unfortunately the call was cut off before I finished...

My guess is this is their way of preventing people from faking country info for Marketplace reasons and anyone caught in between the cracks gets totally screwed.  If only I could transfer my gamer points to a new profile...
August 1, 2007 12:55 AM
 

MrGTI said:

This seems like a simple problem. You'd think they'd have a way to switch the country. I can't imagine their being any reason they can't switch it - especially when you're on the phone with them, and they can verify your phone number and IP address are Canadian.
August 1, 2007 5:10 PM
 

Dan said:

I currently have this problem also, I just recently activated Xbox Live GOLD 12+1 and now i cannot add my Xbox Live POINTS because my profile is set to United States and I cannot change it.
August 3, 2007 2:21 AM
 

Robert R said:

Seems like a simple thing to fix - did they give you more of a reason on why they "can't" change it?  I'd suggest keep calling them - hopefully you will get someone who is willing to help and not treat you like another number.

Good Luck!
August 8, 2007 10:28 PM
 

David Moulton said:

That's silly, even I could figure out how to change it.  Tell Microsoft to call me, and I’ll explain it to them...United States = US and Canada=CA.

“If at first you don’t succeed, call and call again”
August 9, 2007 5:11 PM
 

Jan said:

i am currently experiencing the same problem

the whole trying people not to have access to US stuff if not valid... i got a points card in the US, but my account when i activated it was based in Canada, therefore the code is invalid

i did however make a new account that i based in teh US and i can redeem the code (even though currently doing it in canada)
August 15, 2007 3:02 PM
 

Rich said:

Currently getting the same crap here in Japan - It's a JP machine, but obviously my settings are english, right? As it's my first language...
Xbox live Card number is coming up as invalid, so I've been sold a lemon. I have been rogered up the *** and told to like it - thank you, Microsoft!
I checked out online faqs on the xbox live site - and it said 'email support' - great, i thought, this'll get somewhere. Only, it redirected my to a freephone number (free in the UK is not free for me, fellers). Despite stating email support. I've heard horror stories about 30 minute waits to talk to unconcerned idiots. I don't think I'll bother.
To get a refund on an xbox live card here, would take a fairly high level of japanese to accomplish. I certainly couldn't explain the details. I just want to use the credits I HAVE PAID FOR. Microsoft really screwed up. Pretty disgusted with the whole debacle.
August 17, 2007 10:40 AM
 

Jesse said:

Yeah i have the exact same problem

i tried ringing them, was on hold for half an hour and when i finally got through was told that i could simply change it on my xbox. Which of course isn't the case, and the woman on the other end of the line told me how it's a common problem which is currently unsolvable.

*sigh*
September 24, 2007 12:46 PM
 

SAMZ said:

I faced the same situation with a Canadian account and a US points card. what i did is created a new gamertag with a silver live account based in the US added the points and bought some Arcade games and saving some points for later. These games (downloads) are stored in the machine and are independant of the account downloaded from. So not to lose the money i spent on the card i made a free silver account to coupe with this messed up situation. So i have the main gamertag account for everything in xbox live and one account only for MS points.
September 25, 2007 6:58 AM
 

nexen said:

I'm royally screwed by this.

I lived in Canada for 7 years and recently moved to the U.S. Soon I won't be able to pay for my Xbox live account because my account is Canadian and I no longer have Canadian credit cards. I also cannot pay for an xbox live foreign account with domestic credit cards or even store-bought subscription cards.

Here's the really neat part: Shortly after the move my Xbox pulled the ring-of-death trick. I had to purchase a new one since mine was no longer covered under warranty (it was the one bar, not the 3 bar error ring so even the extended grace warranty did not apply). I grudgingly bought a new one.

Well, I then find out then that all my purchased downloaded content is linked via my Xbox 360 MAC address (unique per console) and my Xbox live account ID. Have one or the other and they still work. Unfortunately, since I have a new console I no longer have the old MAC address. Since now I'm also going to lose my Xbox Live membership - well, I'm just royally screwed here.

I emailed Xbox.com support and they took a week to answer and when they finally responded they answered a totally different question than I had asked.

I called 1-800-4my-xbox and it took them 3 transfers and a few hours to finally figure out what I was asking of them and then they told me it was impossible. I asked for the supervisor (Jason) and he flat-out refused to help me and also refused to escalate my call higher up the ladder or even give me any other course of action to pursue.

His final suggestion was to "have one of your Canadian friends pay into your account and then pay them back."

I am absolutely floored by this. This is just absolutely broken. What the hell is going on over there that these people cannot handle a simple database transfer?! This needs to be fixed ASAP.
October 26, 2007 6:14 PM
 

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December 1, 2007 6:15 AM
 

John Menendez said:

Hey, I called xbox support in Mexico and i got a nice Canadian on the line who told me how to fix this (or get points in at least):
(It might take a while)
- Create a new email adress with the country you want ( in ur case, Canada)
- Create a seilver account (free) and purchase the points there
- The points are in your xbox 360 so simply go to your gold account and they'll be there. (or maybe buy the games and they'll be there, im not sure
December 11, 2007 7:36 PM
 

beaker656 said:

Same issue for me. Was living in the US, got 360 on launch day and opened gold account. 14 months later I move back to the UK and up until May this year I could download films and content from the US marketplace in the UK. Then we had the spring console update and it all changed as the marketplace has now became regionalised by IP address, no matter where in the world you are and account was created.

Currently I can see the US market place, select something to download but when you come to pay for it, it says it is not available at my current location. No great deal as I am not into renting films.

This week in the UK they launched the local UK marketplace, but guess what I can't access it as my account is setup for the US. I called them about this and they said they would call back. They didn't. I called again and this time they tell me to junk my account and start again, and I can "recover" my gamertag if I want. When I asked about my MS credits, gamerscore, he happily told me I would lose them!! Great customer care MS.

When I told him this wasn't good enough he noticed my live account was valid until mid March '09 he said just keep playing with it until expires. So I then asked what do I do about not being able to access the marketplace?? He replied DON'T as you can't. Way to go again.

They have said they will ring again within 48 hrs. I just want to keep my score, gamertag and be able to access the marketplace here in the UK. I am not bothered about the credits right now (even though they do this to maximise profits from European customers).
December 14, 2007 9:34 AM
 

RGC said:

I live in Brazil. Microsoft launched the 360 here but no LIVE account yet. I use my cousin´s address in British Columbia and bought a " 1600 Point card valid for US accounts only". Now that I read all the posts I Know my card is useless. If you want to "change" codes, I can send my USA unused code first and take the risk to receive the "Canadian" unused code you have. Just e-mail me: rgcampos@ajato.com.br
December 16, 2007 12:11 PM
 

RGC said:

Please, ignore my offer because I have already exchanged the code. Thank You.
December 16, 2007 12:45 PM
 

sheep said:

Does anyone know how to change email????
December 23, 2007 12:07 PM
 

Julio H said:

The same thing
i talked 2 hours with the Xbox live in Spain, no solution.
I live in Spain, but my xbox live account is in USA, so in Credit card is useless
the told me to create a new tag and i will lose all my point and my my name tag with my archivments

i dont want to lose it so i am locked now


December 25, 2007 3:15 PM
 

Satish said:

SAME PROBLEM

And support was stupid and useless about.  I am very disappointed with Xbox and the effects of this on Canadian customers.  Very.
January 7, 2008 11:13 PM
 

tristdac said:

 
sheep said:
Does anyone know how to change email????
December 23, 2007 12:07 PM

press A button on your profile (box with your gamer pic and name in top left corner) on xbox live page of dashboard.

choose account management from list

select windows live id on next page that comes up

select change windows live id

you will need a new windows live id to change to (thats setup with your current country as location) and you will need to your current live id password.

NOTE: THIS IS TOTALLY USELESS AND WASTE OF TIME AS YOUR GAMERTAG WILL STILL BE REGISTERED WITH OLD ADDRESS OR COUNTRY. WHERE DOES THIS INFORMATION COME FROM?????

If anyone finds a solution to this... PLEASE POST!!!
January 10, 2008 9:33 AM
 

tristdac said:

your billing information is taken from the live id account you use when you first create your gamertag. IT CANNOT be changed. if you sign in to your account at https://live.xbox.com and go the the billing information page you will see that you can change anything but your country(will be greyed out) and postcode which will correspond to your country.

i too have called xbox support and the woman (although apologetic) could not do anything about this. she did however say that they were receiving a lot of feedback about this problem and it may be an option in the next update... similar to how the ability to change gamertags was added.
January 10, 2008 10:16 AM
 

JIM said:

I called xbox support as well. I want to transfer all my data and gamertag to the new xbox elite.  They said it was impossible and took my number down and told me they would call myself when they have an answer....that was over a month ago.  So I bought a ps3, unreal graphics and sony's hotline is amazing.  I had a question and they answered it on the spot.  I suggest the ps3 over xbox any day now because of the graphics, online play, and blue ray.
January 15, 2008 3:49 AM
 

Smrgol said:

My GF is having this exactg problem, her passport was created a long time ago and natuarlly never thought that the country would be a problem, I mean who would, you're only emailing....

Luckily I only bought the 360 for her this weekend and she can create a new account and only loose 60 gamer points.

I wish all of you the best of luck
February 6, 2008 7:17 PM
 

Dark Angel said:

[quote]i too have called xbox support and the woman (although apologetic) could not do anything about this. she did however say that they were receiving a lot of feedback about this problem and it may be an option in the next update... similar to how the ability to change gamertags was added. [/quote]

yeah!!! I hope so.....
February 19, 2008 8:27 AM
 

Maran said:

I live in Holland and I have the exact same problem here. Years ago people found out that is you change the country in your Hotmail details to U.S. you get a 20 times bigger mailbox.

So now I'm screwed. Phone-support here says it's just too bad for me. TOO BAD?!?!
I have to f*cking pay to even play online and they give me this bullshit answer?
March 27, 2008 5:13 PM
 

Angryfeller said:

Gah... well i guess i'll have to just spend the last 4 months of my gold.. and then change to a new gamertag.. im only going to loose.... 7544 achievement points :(
April 1, 2008 3:53 PM
 

Mee Mee said:

Yeah man i had the same problems... really gay.......................
April 2, 2008 7:54 PM
 

Wouter said:

Just like Maran, also from Holland and got the same problem.

I only want to change my country in the billing information.

Hope they will implement it in the next update.
April 4, 2008 9:13 AM
 

The Solution said:

I have the same problem as you guys and this is what i did to fix it. So I called 1800 4MY XBOX and i talked to the manager or whatever. He told me that the country of my live account couldnt be changed, but he did tell me to make another account to what ever country i was really from, after that he told me to enter the microft points code and download whatever you want to. All the content downloaded off of the xboxlive market place is available to all accounts on the system. I just recently did this to get the maps for call of duty 4. So for example if you download a map pack or whatever on 'gamertag 1' it will also be available on 'gamertag 2' and 'gamertag 3', and vice versa.
April 6, 2008 4:27 PM
 

Steve said:

I am giving up on Microsoft.  I've talked to 1-800-4MY-XBOX 4 times and no matter how polite the person on the other end was, I couldn't get the problem resolved.  I bought an original XBOX in California when I lived there, I moved to Canada.  I then bough an Xbox360 in canada, and activated my old gamer tag on it.  For a long time, I was able to purchase points etc.  And then last year, they made an update that blocked my account from purchasing on XBOX live.  I bought over $400 worth of stuff and it's trapped in a profile that's crippled.  I can't transfer to a new profile. nothing.  

In response to The Solution....

That doesn't work with everything.  For example, Oblivion expansions don't transfer across accounts on my Xbox.  I would have to re-purchase every expansion if I wanted it on a new canadian profile.  Absurd!

I am so pissed off with my xbox360, that I'm selling it.  I have purchased over 20 games, spent $500 on live, and enjoyed my box while it worked.  I haven't spent one cent since the region lock update.

Goodbye Microsoft, I will never purchase anything Xbox again.  A year without a solution is unacceptable.
April 17, 2008 1:56 PM
 

dark devil said:

oh god same problem
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrh
am gonna die without microsoft point
i have to bye
some body help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
April 24, 2008 7:01 PM

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